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Chlodwig
22.10.03, 08:12
Was sind eure Empfehlungen?Bin jetzt bis auf die Linie Astrachan -Archangelsk vorgedrungen und habe den Großteil der russischen Divisionen im Westen zerschlagen..Bis Wladiwostok am Pazifik ist es doch noch recht weit.Wie soll ich außerdem dieses riesige Gebiet sichern?Wäre es nicht sinnvoll wenn die Russen das selber machen?

Peter der Große
22.10.03, 08:39
Gegen wen soll das Gebiet denn gesichert werden? :D
Aber wartet doch mal auf das "Bitter-Peace"-Event. Dann klärt sich das vielleicht schneller. Wofür allerdings Wladiwostok benötigt wird, wenn ich mich nicht irre. Also schnell den Japse ins Boot holen. Spart Zeit.

Maximus
22.10.03, 10:33
Gegen wen soll das Gebiet denn gesichert werden? :D
Aber wartet doch mal auf das "Bitter-Peace"-Event. Dann klärt sich das vielleicht schneller. Wofür allerdings Wladiwostok benötigt wird, wenn ich mich nicht irre. Also schnell den Japse ins Boot holen. Spart Zeit.

Da gibt es dann noch 2 Dinge zu beachten:

a) Pro Woche liegt die Wahrscheinlichkeit nur bei 5%, das dieses Event eintritt, d.h. es kann lange uaf sich warten lassen.
b) solltet ihr für Waldiwostok Japan mir ins Boot hohlen, dann bekommen die, meine ich, einen Teil im Osten Russlands beim Bitter Peace.


Nunja, alternativ könnt ihr mit einem Panzerkorps und wenigen Besatzungstruppen auch selbst innerhalb einens 3/4 Jahres zum Pazifik vorstoßen und dann annektieren.


Edit: sichern: Ihr müsst eh nur die Gebiete mit Infra über 30 sichern, und in den Provinzen reichen 2-3 Divisionen. Ist ja schließlich tiefstes Hinterland ;)

Graf Stinklaus
22.10.03, 11:45
Bitter Peace
Was ist das :rolleyes: :confused:

Graf Oskar
22.10.03, 11:50
Vielleicht, "Schlecht schmeckender Frieden" für Stalin und Genossen. Ha, nenn es Kapitulation gegenüber Deutschland.
Dann kommt ne schöne Meldung, warum die Roten zustimmen

Agrippa
22.10.03, 12:11
hmmm.... also 'Bitter Peace' wird wann getriggert?
wenn man Leningrad, Stalingrad und Moskau hält oder ?!
bzw. dann mit 5% Chance pro Tag...

Russland annektieren heisst natürlich soviel wie "Spiel gewonnen" ;)
Mit den Russen als Marionette... hmm... könnte man auch einiges anstellen... hehe... z.B. einfach mal Kanada angreifen oder so... ;)
weil immerhin bekommt man so dermassen viele Truppen wenn man Russland als Marionette hat, das erweitert schon den Handlungsspielraum enorm...
Man bedenke nämlich das die russischen Truppen garnicht schlecht sind... die schönen dicken Panzer ud so... ;)
Ich glaube... annektieren ist der sichere Weg zum Sieg, um ein bisschen Spass in die Sache zu bringen würde (und werde!) ich aber die Marionette wählen.

Caesar
22.10.03, 12:13
##########################################################################
# The Bitter Peace - Japan is not Axis
##########################################################################
event = {
id = 2625
random = no
country = SOV

# Triggered by GER 2024

name = "EVT_2625_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2625_DESC"
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "OK"



# Secede the west of Urals to Germany
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 865 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 864 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 863 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 862 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 861 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 859 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 858 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 857 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 856 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 855 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 854 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 853 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 852 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 851 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 850 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 848 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 847 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 846 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 845 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 844 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 843 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 842 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 840 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 839 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 838 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 794 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 793 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 792 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 791 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 790 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 788 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 785 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 784 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 783 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 781 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 780 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 779 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 778 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 776 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 775 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 774 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 773 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 772 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 770 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 769 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 766 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 764 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 727 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 725 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 724 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 723 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 722 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 721 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 720 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 719 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 718 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 717 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 716 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 715 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 714 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 713 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 712 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 711 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 709 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 708 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 707 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 650 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 649 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 648 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 646 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 645 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 643 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 640 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 639 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 638 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 635 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1374 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1373 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1372 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1360 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1359 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1263 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1262 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1260 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1259 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1258 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1257 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1256 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1255 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1254 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1252 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1251 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1250 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1249 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1248 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1246 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1245 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1244 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1243 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1242 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1241 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1240 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1239 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1237 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1236 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1235 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1234 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1233 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1232 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1230 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1229 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1228 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1227 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1226 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1225 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1224 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1223 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1222 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1220 }

#######if romania doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 761 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 868 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 757 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 736 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 739 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 731 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 759 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 760 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 768 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 728 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 729 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 730 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 629 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 767 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 763 }

#######if finland doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 787 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 803 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 795 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 706 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 705 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 800 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 801 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 796 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 797 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 799 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 798 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 813 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 812 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 821 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 819 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 702 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 804 } # Russian Karelia + Kola to GERland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 805 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 807 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 811 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 822 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 834 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 821 }

#########if sweden doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 653 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 654 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 659 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 660 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 661 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 665 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 691 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 2160 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 692 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 695 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 690 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 689 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 675 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 681 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 685 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 682 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 818 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 698 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 697 }

#########if bulgaria doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 750 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 756 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 871 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 869 }

#########if hungary doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 622 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 634 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 633 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 630 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 627 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 626 }

#########if slovakia doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 618 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 631 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 632 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 727 }

#########if persia doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1358 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1362 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1357 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1350 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1413 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1407 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1410 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1412 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1361 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1411 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1364 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1406 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1356 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1363 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1414 }

#########if manchuko doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1557 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1660 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1661 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1654 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1657 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1667 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1559 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1655 }

command = { type = peace which = GER }


# Estonia
command = { type = removecore which = 707 }

# Latvia
command = { type = removecore which = 708 }
command = { type = removecore which = 709 }
command = { type = removecore which = 712 }
command = { type = removecore which = 713 }

# Lithuania
command = { type = removecore which = 714 }
command = { type = removecore which = 715 }

# Bessarabia
command = { type = removecore which = 763 }
command = { type = removecore which = 767 }

# Claims on Finland
command = { type = removecore which = 787 }
command = { type = removecore which = 803 }
command = { type = removecore which = 804 }
command = { type = removecore which = 821 }

# In case Finland still exists:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 787 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 803 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 804 } # Russian Karelia + Kola to Finland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 805 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 807 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 811 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 822 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 834 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 821 }

command = { type = peace which = FIN }

# In case USSR is still at war with Sweden:
command = { type = peace which = SWE }

# Bessarabia back to Romania:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 763 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 767 }
command = { type = peace which = ROM }

command = { type = peace which = BUL }
command = { type = peace which = PER }
command = { type = peace which = SLO }




# Some to Japan:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1648 } # Northern Sakhalin
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1847 } # Commodore
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1843 } # Kamtjatka
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1846 }



command = { type = dissent value = -15 }

# Move the capital
command = { type = capital which = 1522 } # Novosibirsk
command = { type = province_keypoints which = 1522 value = 5 }
}
}

Caesar
22.10.03, 12:15
#############################################################################
# The Bitter Peace - Japan is Axis (and thus get a bigger slice)
#############################################################################
event = {
id = 2646
random = no
country = SOV

# Triggered by GER 2046

name = "EVT_2625_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2625_DESC"
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "OK"


# Secede the west of Urals to Germany
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 865 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 864 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 863 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 862 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 861 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 859 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 858 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 857 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 856 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 855 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 854 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 853 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 852 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 851 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 850 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 848 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 847 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 846 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 845 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 844 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 843 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 842 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 840 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 839 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 838 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 794 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 793 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 792 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 791 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 790 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 788 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 785 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 784 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 783 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 781 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 780 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 779 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 778 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 776 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 775 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 774 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 773 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 772 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 770 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 769 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 766 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 764 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 727 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 725 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 724 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 723 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 722 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 721 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 720 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 719 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 718 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 717 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 716 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 715 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 714 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 713 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 712 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 711 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 709 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 708 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 707 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 650 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 649 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 648 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 646 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 645 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 643 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 640 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 639 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 638 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 635 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1374 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1373 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1372 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1360 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1359 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1263 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1262 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1260 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1259 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1258 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1257 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1256 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1255 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1254 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1252 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1251 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1250 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1249 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1248 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1246 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1245 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1244 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1243 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1242 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1241 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1240 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1239 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1237 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1236 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1235 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1234 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1233 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1232 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1230 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1229 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1228 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1227 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1226 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1225 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1224 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1223 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1222 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1220 }

#######if romania doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 761 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 868 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 757 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 736 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 739 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 731 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 759 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 760 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 768 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 728 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 729 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 730 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 629 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 767 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 763 }

#######if finland doesnt exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 787 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 803 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 795 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 706 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 705 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 800 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 801 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 796 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 797 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 799 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 798 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 813 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 812 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 821 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 819 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 702 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 804 } # Russian Karelia + Kola to GERland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 805 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 807 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 811 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 822 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 834 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 821 }

#########if sweden doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 653 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 654 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 659 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 660 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 661 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 665 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 691 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 2160 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 692 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 695 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 690 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 689 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 675 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 681 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 685 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 682 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 818 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 698 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 697 }

#########if bulgaria doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 750 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 756 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 871 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 869 }

#########if hungary doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 622 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 634 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 633 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 630 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 627 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 626 }

#########if slovakia doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 618 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 631 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 632 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 727 }

#########if persia doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1358 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1362 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1357 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1350 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1413 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1407 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1410 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1412 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1361 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1411 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1364 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1406 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1356 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1363 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 1414 }

#########if manchuko doesn´t exist
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1557 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1660 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1661 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1654 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1657 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1667 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1559 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1655 }

command = { type = peace which = GER }


# Estonia
command = { type = removecore which = 707 }

# Latvia
command = { type = removecore which = 708 }
command = { type = removecore which = 709 }
command = { type = removecore which = 712 }
command = { type = removecore which = 713 }

# Lithuania
command = { type = removecore which = 714 }
command = { type = removecore which = 715 }

# Bessarabia
command = { type = removecore which = 763 }
command = { type = removecore which = 767 }

# Claims on Finland
command = { type = removecore which = 787 }
command = { type = removecore which = 803 }
command = { type = removecore which = 804 }
command = { type = removecore which = 821 }

# In case Finland still exists:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 787 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 803 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 804 } # Russian Karelia + Kola to Finland
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 805 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 807 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 811 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 822 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 834 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = FIN value = 821 }

command = { type = peace which = FIN }

# In case USSR is still at war with Sweden:
command = { type = peace which = SWE }

# Bessarabia back to Romania:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 763 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ROM value = 767 }
command = { type = peace which = ROM }

command = { type = peace which = BUL }
command = { type = peace which = PER }
command = { type = peace which = SLO }


# Japanese Slice of the Cake:
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1648 } # Northern Sakhalin
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1847 } # Commodore
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1843 } # Kamtjatka
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1846 }

command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1651 } # The Vladivostok area
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1652 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1653 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1656 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1657 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1658 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1662 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = JAP value = 1663 }

# Move the capital
command = { type = capital which = 1522 } # Novosibirsk
command = { type = province_keypoints which = 1522 value = 5 }

}
}

Caesar
22.10.03, 12:16
hmmm.... also 'Bitter Peace' wird wann getriggert?
wenn man Leningrad, Stalingrad und Moskau hält oder ?!
bzw. dann mit 5% Chance pro Tag...

Russland annektieren heisst natürlich soviel wie "Spiel gewonnen" ;)
Mit den Russen als Marionette... hmm... könnte man auch einiges anstellen... hehe... z.B. einfach mal Kanada angreifen oder so... ;)
weil immerhin bekommt man so dermassen viele Truppen wenn man Russland als Marionette hat, das erweitert schon den Handlungsspielraum enorm...
Man bedenke nämlich das die russischen Truppen garnicht schlecht sind... die schönen dicken Panzer ud so... ;)
Ich glaube... annektieren ist der sichere Weg zum Sieg, um ein bisschen Spass in die Sache zu bringen würde (und werde!) ich aber die Marionette wählen.

Aber man muss auf den Aoutdow (Auto declaration of War) 1941 aufpassen, da kann einem die Sowjetunion, obwohl sie eine Marionette ist, den Krieg erklären.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

jeannen
22.10.03, 12:29
Aber man muss auf den Aoutdow (Auto do War) 1941 aufpassen, da kann einem die Sowjetunion, obwohl sie eine Marionette ist, den Krieg erklären.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ich dachte, "DOW" heißt "declaration of war".

Agrippa
22.10.03, 12:32
very aufschlussreich.... :D :D

könntet Ihr mir nicht einfach in einer noch in mitteleuropa ansässigen nicht-toten sprache, die sich der latino-romanischen Schrift bedient, schildern, was all diese Grabinschriften zu bedeuten haben ?! ;)

Peter der Große
22.10.03, 12:42
hmmm.... also 'Bitter Peace' wird wann getriggert?
wenn man Leningrad, Stalingrad und Moskau hält oder ?!

Wladiwostok, Murmansk und Baku müssen auch besetzt sein.

@ Maximus
5% pro Woche sind doch gar nicht wenig. Statistisch gesehen gibt der Russe also innerhalb von 20 Wochen auf- das geht doch schnell. Schneller als bis Wladiwostok zu juckeln. :)

Maximus
22.10.03, 13:05
Wladiwostok, Murmansk und Baku müssen auch besetzt sein.

@ Maximus
5% pro Woche sind doch gar nicht wenig. Statistisch gesehen gibt der Russe also innerhalb von 20 Wochen auf- das geht doch schnell. Schneller als bis Wladiwostok zu juckeln. :)

Generell ja, aber es kann genausogut sein, das man 100 Wochen jeweils "ins Klo greift".

Ich jedenfalls hatte dieses Event erst einmal, und zwar bevor es verschärft wurde. Danach warts bei mir nicht mehr gesehen, und so selten spiele ich nicht mit dem DR ;).

Caesar
22.10.03, 13:23
very aufschlussreich.... :D :D

könntet Ihr mir nicht einfach in einer noch in mitteleuropa ansässigen nicht-toten sprache, die sich der latino-romanischen Schrift bedient, schildern, was all diese Grabinschriften zu bedeuten haben ?! ;)

Kommt aufs gleiche heraus.

701
22.10.03, 19:47
Anektiern....und ruh ist...

keine Grosse verwaltung notwendig...
kaum Sicherungstruppen notwendig...

Günstiger Pazifikstützpunkt fällt euch in die Arme...

Dr.Oktylizer
22.10.03, 19:50
Was passiert eigentlich im MP? Ich werde gegen Ende 41 die SU angreifen als DR. Kann der Sowjetspieler dann wählen, ob er den bitter peace annimmt? Ansonsten ist es nämlich im MP kaum möglich, ganz SU zu annektieren, da auf der naderen Seite Briten und AmerikaNER drücken...

Lagodan
22.10.03, 19:51
Ich dachte, "DOW" heißt "declaration of war".

Richtig.

Und der hier erwähnte autodow kommt auch nur in SRP vor, soweit ich weiß.
Das mit der Marionette werd ich als zusätzliche Abfrage noch anpassen, thx.

Fuzzi
18.05.04, 09:47
Sorry das ich diesen alten tread noch einmal hoch hole, aber bevor ich einen neuen zum gleichen Thema eröffne, aber dafür ist die Search funktion ja da ;)

Ich spiele mit einem kollegen zusammen, er DR ich Japan.
Russland hat dem DR schon beim Polen feldzug den Krieg erklärt.
Am Anfang kam das DR im Osten nicht weiter, nachdem Japan mit China fertig war habe ich die Russen von Osten her angegriffen, wichtige Truppen gebunden und so kam nun auch das DR. recht schnell voran.
Mitlerweile gehören ihm alle wichtigen Schlüsselprovinzen für das Bitter Peace event.
Mir im Osten gehört Wladiwostok und Irkutzk.
Wir sind aber noch nicht in einem Bündniss der Axe da Japan im Moment noch keinen Krieg gegen die Allierten im Pazifik stand halten könnte.
Die Frage ist jetzt, wie lösen wir das Bitter peace event aus ?

Darth
18.05.04, 09:51
Ich denke das liegt an dem fehlendem Bündniss. Ich glaube mich erinnern zu können, dass die eroberten Provs von Bündnissländer besetzt sein müssen, damit der Event ausgelöst wird.
Habet ihr wirklich keine VP-Prov vergessen?

Fuzzi
18.05.04, 09:57
Hi Darth,

also Besetzt vom DR sind Leningrad, Stalingrad und Moskau, Murmansk und Baku.

Einzig noch nicht Sevastopol, dort sind die Engländer gelandet die ebenfalls im Krieg mit der SU sind (verrückte KI ;) )

Japan besetzt die Östlichen Provinzen die an das Meer Grenzen also Wladiwostok und zustzlich Irkutzk.

Wie gesagt, leider ist ein Bündnis mit dem DR die sich mit den Allierten im Krieg befinden für Japan noch nicht drin. Sowohl die Flotte als auch die Luft wäre im Moment noch nicht in der Lage gegen die Allies stand zu halten, auch sind im Moment alle Jap Armeen mit dem Kampf gegen SU beschäftigt.

Graf Oskar
18.05.04, 10:14
Toll bei HSP ist, das du irgendwann des Wussov einsetzen kannst, oder denen den Frieden erlaubst. Aber hoppla, 3-4 Tage später erklären die den Krieg wieder, immer wieder immer wieder, halt ein Murmeltierfall !
(Und des Kotz... mich an !)

Preussenhusar
18.05.04, 10:16
Toll bei HSP ist, das du irgendwann des Wussov einsetzen kannst,
Vlassow ! Wussow ist ein Schauspieler :D

PH

Darth
18.05.04, 11:08
@Fuzzi
da fehlt dann wohl die Provinz Magnitorsk oder so ähnlich. Die VP-Provs sind ersehbar in der Übersicht (F6) und zwar in der "Zusammenfassung". Habe die Tabellennummer nicht im Kopf. Ich glaube es ist die Tabelle 3.
Aber warte mal, da fällt mir ein (ober gemachte Aussagen betreffen natürlich die Annexion):
Der Event kommt auch nur mit einer gewissen Wahrscheinlichkeit. Aber pro Tag mit steigender Wahrscheinlichkeit. Vielleicht funzt es ja doch noch.

Fuzzi
18.05.04, 11:44
@Fuzzi
da fehlt dann wohl die Provinz Magnitorsk oder so ähnlich. Die VP-Provs sind ersehbar in der Übersicht (F6) und zwar in der "Zusammenfassung". Habe die Tabellennummer nicht im Kopf. Ich glaube es ist die Tabelle 3.
Aber warte mal, da fällt mir ein (ober gemachte Aussagen betreffen natürlich die Annexion):


Super Tipp mit der Tabelle, werden heute Abend mal schauen.

Aus der Suchefunktion habe ich gelesen das dies 5 % seien, und das pro Woche.

Hobbydiktator
18.05.04, 19:21
Wie jetzt?
SU angegriffen ohne auf die Tabellen zu schauen?
Ich geh mit denen schlafen :D !!
Ich schreibe mir immer auf welche Provinzen ich brauche da ich rech faul bin.

Alles andere ausser einer Annektierung kommt gar nicht in frage :D
Mit Fallschirmjägern is man schnell weit im Osten.

Ich lasse generel keine Truppen in der ehemaligen SU,nur einmal kahm es vor das die Mongolei mir eine Provinz nahm.

6 Div. Fallschirmjäger und 12 Taktische Bomber haben gereicht um die Mongolei zu annektieren.

Colonel Chris
20.05.04, 11:11
Also Magnitogorsk als das "Tor zu Sibirien" ist zwingend erforderlich für den Bitter-Peace seit 1.06 - Vladivostok braucht man nur, wenn die Japaner in der Achse sind.