alte Garde loswerden...

[Silece]

So, mein erstes 1936er DD als DR. Bis jetzt läufts gut. Hat aber mal jemand ein Event zum loswerden der alten Garde? Ich weiß das das einige Standardmässig machen, also so ein Event auf der Platte liegen haben, dann muß ich mir nicht die mühe machen die IDs der Generäle zu suchen :)

[Von Krüscher]

Das Thema wurde immer mal wieder behandelt und es spukt auch ein Link zum Paradox-Forum herum.
Sei's drum, hier kommen die Events für Deutschland und Italien. Vielleicht kann noch jemand Russland und weitere Nationen beisteuern? Die fehlen mir nämlich auch noch... :D

Deutschland:


#########################################
# killaltegarde
#########################################
event = {
id = 999999
random = no
country = GER
name = "Die Pensionierung der alten Garde"
desc = "Im Gegensatz zu den bisher verbreiteten Irrtümern schwedischer Historiker wurden die Stimmen immer lauter, die darauf hinwiesen, dass die fähigen und ehrenwerten Alt-Heerführer zu Beginn des Dritten Reiches immer mehr dazu übergingen, nichts Neues mehr zu lernen, sich dem angebrachten Ruhestand oder rechtzeitigen Ableben widersetzten und stattdessen nur auf wichtigen Planstellen in ihren Sessel pu... - *ähem* sie wissen schon.
Damit ist jetzt Schluss, hiermit können sie die alten Herren in die Wüste schicken (und nein, damit ist nicht Nordafrika gemeint)."
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style = 0
date = { day = 10 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = january year = 1936 }

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command = { }
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Italien:


#########################################
# killaltegarde
#########################################
event = {
id = 999998
random = no
country = ITa


name = "Die Pensionierung der alten Garde"

desc = "Im Gegensatz zu den bisher verbreiteten Irrtümern schwedischer Historiker wurden die Stimmen immer lauter, die darauf hinwiesen, dass die fähigen und ehrenwerten Alt-Heerführer zu Beginn der italienischen Expansion immer mehr dazu übergingen, nichts Neues mehr zu lernen, sich dem angebrachten Ruhestand oder rechtzeitigen Ableben widersetzten und stattdessen nur auf wichtigen Planstellen in ihren Sessel pu... - *ähem* sie wissen schon.
Damit ist jetzt Schluss, hiermit können sie die alten Herren in die Wüste schicken (und nein, damit ist nicht Nordafrika gemeint)."

picture = "events_empty"
style = 0
date = { day = 10 month = january year = 1936 }

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name = "Nein, wir brauchen jeden Mann für den Endsieg!"
command = { }
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name = "Schicken Sie sie in den Ruhestand."

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[Colonel Chris]

Also, was im Text steht, ist der größte Blödsinn. Da die Reichswehr und junge Wehrmacht ja nahezu ein Offz- und Uffz-Heer war, war die die Qualtität sehr gut, denn sie hatten vor allem nur damit zu tun, sich fachlich weiterzubilden. Die Mannschaften wurden eben zu diesem Zweck "gehalten".

Zum Thema: pauschal die alte Garde zu killen, ist einfach daneben. Auf der anderen Seite ist es aber beim DR Tatsache, daß die alle Generäle/FMs im 36er Szenario fehl am Platze sind außer:
- von Blomberg
- von Fritsch
- von Kaupisch
- von Rundstedt
- von Hammerstein-Equordt
- von Amsberg

Kane und meiner einer recherchieren da zur Zeit fleißig. Von Blomberg und von Fritsch kann man per Event Jan/Feb 38 entlassen "Blomberg-Fritsch-Krise". Von H.-E. geht noch 39 in den Ruhestand (allerdings nicht im Spiel, da geht er per Event 42). Von Kaupisch ging auch 42 und von Amsberg 43. Alle anderen sind schon deutlich VOR 1936 gegangen bzw der letzte Anfang 36.

[G'Kar]

Der werte CC hat bestimmt Recht was den Text des Events für Deutschland angeht. :)

In Wirklichkeit müßte er ungefähr so lauten: "Im Gegensatz zu den bisher verbreiteten Irrtümern schwedischer Historiker wurden die Stimmen immer lauter, die darauf hinwiesen, dass die fähigen und ehrenwerten Alt-Heerführer zu Beginn des Dritten Reiches immer mehr dazu übergingen, nichts Neues mehr zu lernen, sich dem angebrachten Ruhestand oder rechtzeitigen Ableben widersetzten und stattdessen nur auf wichtigen Planstellen in ihren Sessel pu... - *ähem* sie wissen schon.
Damit ist jetzt Schluss, hiermit können sie die alten Herren in die Wüste schicken (und nein, damit ist nicht Nordafrika gemeint)."

;)

[Von Krüscher]

Huch, hätte ich mir den Eventtext beim stumpfen Kopieren mal durchlesen sollen? :D

Wie dem auch sei, G'Kars Alternativtext ist hervorragend und wird bei mir umgehend den alten Text ersetzen.

Was die pauschale Liquidierung (oder nach Sansibar-Verschickung) der alten Garde angeht, so sehe ich es als mein gutes Recht an, Offiziere nach Gutdünken aus meiner Armee zu entfernen.

[Colonel Chris]

@Krüscher

Ja, da stimme ich Dir wieder zu. Man sollte seine Generäle wirklich nach Belieben entlassen können. Und am liebsten noch eine Abfrage: "Es ist wieder eine Planstelle frei, einer dieser Generäle könnte (auto-)befördert werden!"

@G'Kar

Das hast Du aber schon gesagt! :)

[Von Krüscher]

Oh ja, das wäre super!

[Silece]

danke :-) jetzt habe ich wieder Platz :)

[Spocky]

Das Feature Offiziere entlasssen wäre ja allgemein nicht schlecht., Da wäre mann dann auch ganz schnell die himmlers wieder los ;)

Spocky

[Silece]

Ja, sowas wie in Vicky

[noxx]

Deutschland:


#########################################
# killaltegarde
#########################################
event = {
id = 999999
random = no
country = GER
name = "Die Pensionierung der alten Garde"
desc = "Im Gegensatz zu den bisher verbreiteten Irrtümern schwedischer Historiker wurden die Stimmen immer lauter, die darauf hinwiesen, dass die fähigen und ehrenwerten Alt-Heerführer zu Beginn des Dritten Reiches immer mehr dazu übergingen, nichts Neues mehr zu lernen, sich dem angebrachten Ruhestand oder rechtzeitigen Ableben widersetzten und stattdessen nur auf wichtigen Planstellen in ihren Sessel pu... - *ähem* sie wissen schon.
Damit ist jetzt Schluss, hiermit können sie die alten Herren in die Wüste schicken (und nein, damit ist nicht Nordafrika gemeint)."
picture = "events_empty"
style = 0
date = { day = 10 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = january year = 1936 }

action_a = {
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command = { }
}

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Kann mir jemand sagen weshalb DD das 36er Szenario mit diesem event nicht mehr starten will? :rot:
kommt wärend des ladens immer was von:
ERROR (Date:Unespected field) deathdate
:???: :(

[Pionier]

ich glaub time ist der entsprechende name nicht date

[Big-A]

So gehts:

#########################################
# killaltegarde
#########################################
event = {
id = 2999
random = no
country = GER
name = "Die Pensionierung der alten Garde"
desc = "Folgende Generäle verabschieden sich in den wohlverdienten Ruhestand..."
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style = 0
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 30 month = january year = 1936 }

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[He-Man]

Mein Tipp ist ja immer noch -> Alte Garde zu den Milizen und Garnisonen. Da nerven die nicht und man verbraucht keine guten Generäle; denn diese gehen irgendwann aus...

[Colonel Chris]

Mein Tipp ist ja immer noch -> Alte Garde zu den Milizen und Garnisonen. Da nerven die nicht und man verbraucht keine guten Generäle; denn diese gehen irgendwann aus...

Ja, aber gerade die Alte Garde im Rang General/FM blockiert das Beförderungsystem für die talentierten Kommandeure.

Deswegen sollten wenigstens ca 10-20 der alten Garde in den Ruhestand geschickt werden, darunter alle mit entsprechend hohen Dienstgraden.

[He-Man]

Ja, aber gerade die Alte Garde im Rang General/FM blockiert das Beförderungsystem für die talentierten Kommandeure.

Deswegen sollten wenigstens ca 10-20 der alten Garde in den Ruhestand geschickt werden, darunter alle mit entsprechend hohen Dienstgraden.

Ja klar, kann das vollkommen verstehen, nervt mich auch, aber ist das nicht ein ein wenig Realität.

Mich nervt die automatische Beförderung sowieso. Andauernd muss ich meine Truppen durchblättern nach irgendwelchen Generalleutnanten, die 1-3 Divs führen und irgendwann auf einmal FM geworden sind. Da müsste man mehr Einfluss drauf haben. Aber das iwr zu einen neuen Thema...

[Colonel Chris]

Nein, das ist eben unrealistisch, da die besagten Herren, wie von Kane und mir recherchiert, größtenteils gar nicht in der Wehrmacht aktiv waren sondern höchstens noch in der Reichswehr.

[Orbaal]

Ein historisch korrektes Event wäre super! :top: :ja:

*wartet ungeduldig auf einen DL-Link*

[Jorrig]

Am besten wärs, wenn auf irgendeiner Basis "Beförderungspunkte" vergeben würden, mit denen man dann Anführer befördern kann, ohne dass es Skillpunkte kostet.´Entweder durch das Bauen von Divisionen oder aber durch konkrete Kampferfahrung. Oder beides.

[Kane]

Ein historisch korrektes Event wäre super! :top: :ja:

*wartet ungeduldig auf einen DL-Link*
Ist bereits Bestandteil im TRP Mod. Aus dem Leaderfile wurden alle Altgardisten entfernt, die nie in der Wehrmacht waren ( Böhm Ermolli war z.B. FM ehrenhalber wegen seiner Verdienste im WK 1 !!!, aber niemals Offizier der Wehrmacht ) und der Rest geht überwiegend Ende 1942, Anfang 1943, historisch korrekt, in den Ruhestand.